很难想象英国人20世纪80年代的剧集即使放到今天也不过时,在看完剧后,你会发现各国的政治体制虽然有所不同,但官僚机构的行事作风却大同小异。
第一集主题是男女平权,我觉得结尾莎拉的话值得回味,她的对话表明女性要的不是男性施舍的平等,她们希望得到的是一个平等竞争和证明自己能力的机会。然而这一点却不能被哈克汉弗莱等人理解,最终导致了她的出走。
第二第三集略过不谈。
第四集是我感慨较深的一集,哈克在危机时刻毫不犹豫地想要出卖忠心耿耿的伯纳,说明哈克本质上也是一个自私自利的人。此外,哈克的临场应变能力也确实让人刮目相看,为其日后成为首相埋好伏笔。
第五、六、七、八集略过。
虽然汉弗莱是道德真空,但他的部分观点不无道理,如公务员的政治中立、政府的首要职责在于维护社会稳定等。
第一集 Equal Opportunity 机会均等
1、M对自己作为政治人物的个人成就支支吾吾。Sarah看的很清楚。作为个人,想要achievement而不是activity(花无尽时间给无关人等就无关事项传递无关信息spend endless hours circulating information that isn't relevant about subjects that doesn't matter to people who aren't interested)治理国家很重要,只是没看到谁在做。厌烦了那些花招。物以类聚人以群分,看看当Sarah说出这些时他们吃惊的表情,不要想着从内部尤其是从下至上改变他们,他们会觉得你疯了。
问题的根源:
政策的制定者和执行者不是一波人。
论资排辈。
2、Deputy Secretary;Under Secretary
公务员工作三法宝:越拖延就越快,越贵就是越便宜,越私密就越民主。
3、女性确实不适合工作吗?
4、原则上支持。天下都一样。
第二集 Challenge 迎难而上
1、中央政府的人员和财务浪费砍不动,又打起了地方政府的主意。但白厅(中央政府的人最怕对地方的砍刀最终也会以同样的方式砍到自己。
2、同样的,嘴上说政客不重要的漂亮话,但一旦套用到中央政府(首相、内政大臣Home Secretary)身上,就会立马面临窘境。
3、为什么政府做事一直不设定预定目标、评价标准和责任人,就是怕陷入专业管理(professional management)的境地,所以他们才让人员不断地流动。
4、日常对人防工程Civil Defence的蔑视,但你必须要承认必须要考虑核战争发生的可能性,否则就是政治不正确。
第三集 The Skeleton In The Cupboard 家丑外扬
1、PS不让M接触下属。
2、记录。
3、交换。资料全部损毁替PS保密换来本就不应惩罚的高效自制郡。不填表格一样好好的,那么需要收集表格的人干什么呢?
第四集 Moral Dimension 操守问题
1、贿赂得到合同。brown envelope还真是无处不在。不在policy里但是在practice里。
2、用攻击媒体掩饰贿赂。
第五集 The Bed Of Nails 如坐针毡
1、推诿问题
2、信息泄露问题。调查从无结果,因为最大的泄密机构就坐落于唐宁街10号。
3、综合交通问题。不能伤害任何既得利益。
第六集 The Whisky Priest 知易行难
1、卖军火。
2、良心与道德。要迁出一堆人。为什么一定要做?
第七集 The Middle-Class Rip-Off 劫贫济富
1、阶级审美。
2、个人利益优先。小B进化地太快了!
1. The three articles of civil service faith: it takes longer to do things quickly; it's more expensive to do them cheaply; it's more democratic to do them in secret.
2. 阿拉伯之旅答记者问也是模板,以守为攻不然都快被pua到忘了minister这个位置也不是随便什么阿猫阿狗能爬上来的
Do come in.
Sit down, Jenny.
I may call you Jenny, may I not?
- If you like.
- Now, what seems to be the trouble? Two things.Both of them rather worrying to the public.The first is a story that was in the French press.It's about corruption in BES
- getting the Kumrani contract.
- Complete nonsense!
- They quoted reports of payments to officials.Really, this is absolutely typical.A British company slogs its guts out to win orders, create jobs! What does it get from the media? A smear campaign! - If they won by bribery
- There was no bribery.I had a full inquiry.
- All these payments have been identified.
- What as?
- Commission fees, administrative overheads.
- Operative costs, managerial surcharges.Expenses, miscellaneous outgoings.We have looked into every brown envelope every every account book and everything is completely in order.
- I see.
- May I say one thing? Allegations of this nature are symptomatic of a very sick society for which the media shares the blame!
- The media?
- Why are you putting thousands of jobs at risk? I'll call on the Press Council to censure the press for its lack of professionalism in running this story.The Council and the House of Commons must be concerned about the standards which have applied in this disgraceful matter.Pressure will be brought to bear to make sure that this gutter press reporting is not repeated.I see.Ahem.Well, there is this other question.It's about the rosewater jar apparently presented to you in Kumran.
- Yes?
- I saw it in your flat, actually.
- Yes, we're keeping it there, temporarily.
- Temporarily?
- Yes, it's very valuable.
- Mrs Hacker said it was an imitation.Burglars, girl, burglars! And you've gossip! That's until we can get rid of it.
- Get rid of it?
- I'll present it to our local museum this weekend.I can't hold onto it, you know.It's government property.Now what was your question? No er that's all right, actually.Um I No, no, no, that's fine.
- Nothing more?
- No, no, that's all.Well, good of you to drop in.
- Thank you, Minister.
- Goodbye, Jenny.
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//cinemascopicravings.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/the-suits-of-yes-minister/Costume design is an important element of characterisation. Invariably, how a person is dressed has an influence on other people’s perceptions of that person, and this fact is just as important in film or on TV. Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister are interesting examples of this, as the costume design is very subtle. Indeed, I’ve been re-watching them lately and it is only because I’m a style hack that I noticed the costume design at all. There are three key characters in the series, namely the Minister and later Prime Minister, Jim Hacker MP; the Minister’s Permanent Secretary and later Cabinet Secretary, Sir Humphrey Appleby; and the Minister and later Prime Minister’s Principal Private Secretary, Bernard Woolley. There are key differences between all three upon which shall be elaborated throughout.
Jim Hacker (Paul Eddington) was educated at the London School of Economics, which is actually an extremely respectable but practical university founded in the 19th century, and therefore commands disdain from both Appleby and Woolley, graduates of the ancient Oxford. Hacker tends to dress slightly less traditionally, or perhaps ‘more in tune with the times’ is a better way of putting it. He tends to favour double-breasted suits, which lend him a traditional air of statesmanship. Generally, Hacker ties his tie using a four-in-hand, or “schoolboy” knot. This knot lends a more casual air to the formality of a suit and tie, and appears less fastidious than a Windsor knot, which is often associated with the well-to-do.
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Since the Global Financial Crisis, the four-in-had has become popular with politicians again today as politicians strive to be more ‘at one’ with the voters. Hacker’s pocket squares tend to be puffed in his pocket and are usually brightly coloured, dating the programme to a time when many people still wore pocket squares on the daily. The influences on Hacker’s choice of clothing are alluded to in the episode, “The Ministerial Broadcast”, where it is suggested that on television he wear a light coloured, ‘business-like’ suit for delivering no new information, or a dark coloured suit for announcing big changes, in order to appear more sincere. In the elements of his outfits, though, Hacker is dressed like a man of the people, in a manner that is authoritative and yet also friendly.
This is in direct contrast to Sir Humphrey Appleby (Nigel Hawthorne). An Oxford man with a privileged upbringing, Sir Humphrey always wears single-breasted, two-button suits, usually with a light coloured shirt and pocket square. His ties vary, but all are tied with a perfect half-Windsor (you can tell by the size of the knot). This knot signifies the difference in monetary value of Humphrey and Hacker. Here is a man who is on at least £30,000 a year, according to Yes Minister – this is more than Hacker earns, and it shows! With the exception of the YPM episode, “The Key”, Humphrey never looks untidy or dishevelled, and all his outfits are perfectly tailored. Refreshingly, Sir Humphrey’s suits do not follow the 1980s fashion for having a particularly low gorge (where the collar meets the lapel), and so have not dated at all, as opposed to Hacker’s double-breasted suits, which are a complete product of their age.
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Sir Humphrey's face looks cons
In all his behaviour, Humphrey is a stickler for tradition, and his costume design reflects this. As a sidenote, Ian Fleming had this to say about Windsor knots: “Bond mistrusted anyone who tied his tie with a Windsor Knot. It showed too much vanity. It was often the mark of a cad.” Perhaps Hacker should have taken heed of this advice.
Bernard (Derek Fowlds), also an Oxford man from the upper classes, tends towards the same standards as Humphrey, most notably the Windsor knot. Interestingly, however, Woolley’s costuming changes the most out of all the leads over time. Throughout Yes Minister, Woolley is learning the ropes of the civil services, still quite young and green compared to the experienced Sir Humphrey. Bernard, in his youthful idealism, is yet to gain the automatic jaded outlook of Sir Humphrey. Perhaps as a reflection of this, Bernard’s dress sense in the earlier series is quite dandyish. A proponent of the navy single-breasted suit – often a three-piece – Bernard frequently pairs it with pink shirts or the occasional merchant banker, often with a collar pin and cufflinks to boot.
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A classic example of the Early
Being quite the (dubiously successful) dandy myself, I would certainly mark Bernard as the best dressed of the three in Yes Minister. However, by Yes Prime Minister, Bernard’s style has toned right down, almost to the same level of tradition as Sir Humphrey. Gone are the brighter shirts, to be replaced with whites and blues the same as Sir Humphrey. This shift in style is quite notable, and I interpret it as a sign of Bernard’s advancing up the ranks of the Civil Service and a consequent maturity – though this is not necessarily reflected in his behaviour and puntastic dialogue! He remains the best dressed, however.
The contrasting styles of all three characters give the audience an insight into their personalities right off the bat, and these insights are later backed up by the characters’ roles in the plots. I’ve been unable to find any analysis of the costume design online, or indeed any comments from the programmes’ creators to back up the interpretations I’ve made here. However, in the book adaptations of the series released in the 1980s, numerous references are made to Ministry of Defence officials wearing baggy blue suits as their civilian uniforms. This leads me to believe that there would have to have been some attention paid to the significance of certain sartorial elements in the design of the show. But, maybe I’m just being over-analytical.
UPDATE 27/09/13: According to S Granville of To Bed With A Trollope, Hacker often also wears a London School of Economics tie, reflecting his alma mater. This makes me think there was lots of attention paid to the costuming, and that perhaps I’m not being as over-analytical as I might have thought…
E3:第一次看見小漢急成這樣233……
E4:"A cynic is what an idealist calls a realist."
E6:"Government isn't about morality. (It's about) stability, keeping things going, preventing anarchy, stopping society falling to bits, still being here tomorrow." “Government isn't about good and evil. It's only about order or chaos.”
E8:貌似是小漢第一次結巴呢> <。。。好幾處都笑出眼淚了,尤其是小漢告訴Jim他要“離開”的時候……
LSE總被黑。。。
一集比一集精彩。
笑死了笑死了,必须起身鼓掌送给这群老头,真是太有趣了,好高端漂亮的英文词汇句子啊。恭喜haker成为了10号!!!!!!9.8分!!!果然是神剧
1.女性主义;2. 精简冗余公务员、民防工程与“领导先躲”&媒体“自由” 3. 打压高效地方政府&掩盖历史失责档案 4. 公务员蹭出国&外贸行贿订单&公务员家属受贿;5. 陆运空运铁路-公共交通;6.军火与恐怖分子&道德真空;7.花大部分老百姓的税补贴少数精英趣味(歌剧院音乐厅美术馆等)还是大部分老百姓的平民娱乐
《THE WHISKY PRIEST》这一集系列最佳,以前看的话我应会流泪。
除了关于性别问题的那集笑不出来外 其他还是好好笑啊:D
在遇见这剧之前我从来不知道世界上居然拍这种题材能有这么个拍法的(以前更加孤陋寡闻嗯),人物塑造各种对话单独挑哪里出来都是一等一的赞,萌爆了的剧(等等
太机智了!连Bernard半真半假的回答都闪耀着智慧的光芒!嘤~
完美的“大臣奋斗三部曲”,从第一季刚进内阁不了解情况、被秘书玩弄于股掌之间,到第二季熟悉规则、有时还利用秘书反击一下,这第三季算是修得圆满、与秘书配合默契并同化了,互相掩护、打官腔也熟练不少、对官僚运作机制了解颇深。而私人秘书伯纳虽然也适应了两面派生活,但经常抛书袋,没多少长进。
minister想把Bernard当弃子给扔掉的时候我可伤心了!!!(╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸虽然Bernard总是墙头草两边倒,可是人家总是尽力帮助minister你呢!!怎么还不如humpy对Bernard 呢!(╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸还好最好Bernard的事情被压下来了!
第一集的女权问题放到三十年后的今天也是最常被谈论的话题,而在1900的精讲里,弹幕里男人的反驳和跳脚和坐在会议室里的英国老白男如出一辙,感觉什么都没有变,什么都没有解决,哪有什么矫枉过正,争取权利就是进十退九。
圣诞特别篇真是首尾呼应的典范,既呼应了本集开头给Bernard的surprise,也呼应了本剧第一季第一集的phone jitters. 只是首相突然提早离职的安排也太奇怪了。
这后面几集伯纳德戏份越来越多,也越来越智慧了,不过伯纳德衰老得好快!汉弗莱确实魅力四射虽说并不是啥善人。最后哈克给伯纳德升官,汉弗莱不高兴,估计是觉得他俩关系太近了吧。
可能是这辈子看到的最好的剧了吧
第七集绝了,民膏民脂供有权有势的人享乐
一集一集看下来真的是非常过瘾,而且越陷越深...所谓神剧和经典的确有它的魔力,如今很火的《House of cards》一集就看不下去了,感谢这部剧,让我一个政治盲得到了启蒙。无可救药的爱上这部剧了,不因为它到底有多搞笑,而是看着它就给人很惬意温馨的感觉。三个人都好可爱,特别是Bernard好萌!!!2021.9二刷,大概从第三集开始非常赞了!
三星半。特别篇的条目找不到了及写在这儿吧~ jim还是成功上位了啊!! 经过了这么多事儿你说jim真什么都不知道吗?真傻吗?切~凭我的智商反正是做不到他这个程度~最后游说竞选人的部分赶脚jim超有范儿啊~干脆利落!等着你呦PM~
打岔的艺术、下套的艺术、扯皮的艺术、装傻的艺术、捅娄子的艺术、补锅的艺术……
這一季的服裝很不錯。Humpy往事被揭露簡直太經典,Bernard充分發掘了自己的潛力,Hacker的學習成果得到了導師的肯定XD
期待唐宁街10号再见~以后碰到说话绕弯的人就这么问"You're not related to Sir Humphrey Appleby by any chance?" 另外,Bernard越来越可爱了~
这剧本,这表演,这从句套从句套从句套从句的表达。。。= = 三位主演两位已逝,只有Bernard一人看新版YM是如何糟蹋经典的。
都是些道德中空的人,不过因为自己的良心而否定他人的道德未免太过了,所以我们要做的事是什么也不理,做自己职责内的事罢了PS难得有三人“合作”简直不是棒字了得,开始喜欢狡诈却明智的Humphey了,大臣真的很萌